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Is Geert Right? Let’s Hope Not.

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Is Geert Right? Let’s Hope Not.

Rather than control the pandemic, vaccines now appear instead to be contributing to it—with alarming implications, Vanden Bossche warns.


This article is part of a publishing collaboration between RESCUE and Trial Site News.


Virologist Geert Vanden Bossche predicts a vicious wave of covid-19 that will be driven by the vaccinated, or, more accurately, by the scientifically dubious policy of repeated mass vaccination. (Mary Beth Pfeiffer)

ANTWERP, Belgium—I spent nearly three hours in this historic city on October 11 in an interview with Geert Vanden Bossche, who has devoted years to studying the complex interplay between vaccines and the human immune system. In our talk, this Belgian veterinarian-turned-virologist and vaccine researcher made unsettling predictions for the future.

I can only hope that Vanden Bossche, 62, is wrong. Let’s for the moment assume he is, that there are significant variables that can and often do intervene. That will make this story easier to read as well as write.

From the start, I asked Vanden Bossche to speak, uncharacteristically for him, in as simple terms as possible.

The short version is this: He predicts a vicious wave of covid-19, with cases already rising in parts of Europe. The coming re-emergence of SARS-CoV-2 will escalate quickly, he contends, and make all other waves pale in comparison. It will, he believes, be driven by the vaccinated, or more accurately, by the misdirected and scientifically dubious policy of repeated mass vaccination.

Vanden Bossche has long asserted that the global covid vaccination program, unprecedented in human history, would put enormous pressure on the virus to mutate; his warning has repeatedly been proven true. While the unvaccinated gained long-lasting, adaptable natural immunity from covid infection, the vaccinated harbor a confused and mostly unhelpful array of old-variant anti-spike antibodies; Vanden Bossche believes these so complicate the immune response that more serious disease from new variants will result. In the vaccinated, the SARS-CoV-2 virus, he predicts, will imminently turn a corner from more contagious to more virulent.

“The losses will be huge,” Vanden Bossche, dressed in a scarf and light jacket, told me across a table in a sunny outdoor café. Hospitals will be overwhelmed, he believes. Stability will be shaken.

(See link for article)

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**Comment**

Geert has stated this all before here:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2021/05/05/the-big-vaccine-spin-coming-covid-catastrophe

  • mass vaccination drives viral immune escape
  • In the countries whom have undertaken mass vaccination, (UK, Israel, USA), they will initially experience a drop in infectivity rates, but they will inevitably suffer from a steep incline in severe COVID cases in the weeks to come (Which has now been experienced)

Geert is not alone. Nobel Prize winner, Luc Montagnier, a French virologist has also expressed similar beliefs:

  • The vaccines don’t stop the virus, they “feed the virus,” and facilitate its development into stronger and more transmittable variants
  • New virus variants will be more resistant to “vaccination” and may cause more health implications than their “original” versions
  • Mass “vaccinations” are a “scientific error as well as a medical error,” and an “unacceptable mistake,” he said

Dr. Paul Marik, chief scientific officer for the Front-line COVID Critical Care Alliance states COVID mutations have become less harmful.  Omicron was less virulent.  And while Marik agrees with Geert that the mRNA shots are harmful he doesn’t quite follow the doomsday predictions.

Dr. Sin Hang Lee, a pathologist and published expert in molecular diagnostics, also believes covid will become “less of a problem even with ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) infection. We will live with it (with all its descendants) for a long time.”

In response to critics, Geert states their criticism has nothing to do with science.  He also believes Africa will win the battle due to strong immune systems and only 24% of the population getting the COVID shots, compared to 64% worldwide.  Geert doesn’t mention it, but the other reason is many regions of Africa regularly take ivermectin, a known COVID prophylaxis that stops viral replication that has been maligned and banned by ‘the powers that be.’

But Dr. Lee presented context due to the flawed COVID tests and that many of these supposed new cases might be nothing more than the seasonal flu as the test can not distinguish between the two nor can it even identify variants.  Then there’s the whole cycling debacle as well as the “died with or died from” debacle.

Dr. Tess Lawrie believes that while humanity is in grave danger we have the power of choice and the first choice should be to forego all COVID shots followed by a following a healthy diet and lifestyle as well as following the detox guide on the WCH website.

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TAKE ACTION: CDC Panel Adds COVID Shot To Kids’ Routine Vaccine Schedule

**UPDATE**

The regulatory agencies and their advisory committees have gone amok. It’s time for people to stop consenting and stop complying.

This is a declaration of war on our children. The responsibility to be unrelenting as we defend the next generation from Big Pharma now falls on us. In the coming months, nearly every state in the nation will universally adopt the CDC’s recommended vaccination schedule.

This vote solidifies the capture and corruption of the agencies put in place to protect public health. It’s clear this is not about protecting public health rather protecting Big Pharma by granting permanent liability protection. With the addition of this vaccine to the childhood schedule there will be zero recourse for the injured moving forward.  Source

According to this, only SIX out of thousands of COVID shot injuries are eligible for compensation. 

Go here to take action.

https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/20/cdc-kids-immunization-schedule-covid-coronavirus-vaccine

CDC Panel Adds COVID Shot To Kids’ Routine Vaccine Schedule

(Photo by Shawn Thew-Pool/Getty Images)

Dylan Housman Healthcare Reporter

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) panel of expert vaccine advisers voted Thursday to add the COVID-19 vaccine to the children’s immunization schedule.

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted by a count of 15-0 to add the COVID-19 shots to the immunization schedule, which is a recommended list of vaccines for pediatricians to give children at certain points throughout their development. The addition itself does not mandate that any children receive the vaccine; however, a number of states follow the CDC recommendations when developing their vaccination requirements for public schools.

Children between the ages of six months and 18 years should receive a two-dose series of the Pfizer or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, according to the committee. The immunization schedule does not include a suggestion for boosters, although the CDC already recommends children aged five and older receive a bivalent booster for the virus.  (See link for article)

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**Comment**

While the article states the CDC does not mandate the gene therapy injections, 31 states and the District of Columbia blindly follow CDC recommendations & require vaccines on the CDC schedule to be taken by children for school attendance. Other states impose requirements that largely align with the schedule as well.  (Just look at how mainstream medicine blindly follows antiquated, unscientific Lyme/MSIDS “guidelines,” as if they are mandates and the rule of the land.)

As of Oct. 22, 2022, the following states are rejecting mandatory shots for children to obtain an education:

  • Wyoming
  • Iowa
  • Oklahoma
  • Montana
  • West Virginia
  • South Carolina
  • Florida
  • Arkansas

Further, the following 14 state Attorney Generals object to the CDC’s decision and wrote a letter to the ACIP stating the vote was taken prior to the close of the comment period as well as the fact the injections would deny parents the freedom to determine whether to subject their kids to an experimental “vaccine.” It also states the ICIP CDC, and the medical community need to stop forcing unproven policies and medicines on children who are not at risk of bodily harm.

  • Louisiana
  • Missouri
  • Alabama
  • Montana
  • Arizona
  • Nebraska
  • Arkansas
  • Oklahoma
  • Florida
  • South Carolina
  • Indiana
  • Texas
  • Kansas
  • Utah

The other interesting fact is that the vote was unanimous.  No dissenting voices. How often does this happen in real life?  Well, it’s a must if you sit on the CDC “vaccination” panel.  No free thinking allowed.

This article states the members voted to add Moderna, Pfizer, and Novavax shots to the 2023 schedules, and despite waning effectiveness, still insist they prevent severe disease, that data has shown is a mythThis study shows that the COVID shots cause more harm than good when the proper scientific endpoint of “All Cause Severe Morbidity” is used.  The clinical trial being used to justify these gene therapy injections is dangerously misleading.  Besides using the wrong endpoint, the study eliminated the control group, uses statistical trickery and does not take into account “absolute risk.”

Evidently the bivalent boosters, which haven’t even been tested in humans, will also be added if ACIP’s advice is taken.

The real crux of the matter is money Under the program Vaccines for Children (VFC), the addition of the COVID shots assure they will be covered under the federal program, which buys “vaccines” at a discounted rate and then distributes them to contracted “vaccine” providers – ensuring the money continues to flow due to the fact the shots will shortly not be available for free under the national COVID-19 response Under the auspice of “access” an untested, dangerous “vaccine” which isn’t even needed, and which is still under EUA authorization will now continue to be manufactured and given free of charge to un- or under insured children, but paid in full through the tax-payer’s dime.

When asked about myocarditis and pericarditis after the shots, members of the ACIP cover their backside by stating these are “rare” side-effects, and that most of the affected are fully recovered at follow-up, despite a nurse stating doctors are not even reporting these conditions to VAERS.   Similar shenanigans have been going on in Lymeland for over 40 years.

According to Steve Kirsch:

  1. The “emergency” can now end. They needed the emergency to be able to create EUA approval which gave them liability protection as long as the emergency existed. The emergency is no longer needed.
  2. The vaccine makers can now manufacture fully “approved” vaccines and have complete liability protection forever.
  3. The ACIP vote is just a recommendation. The CDC must add it to the schedule, but that’s a slam dunk.

Important quote:

“I suppose we should not be surprised that the ACIP has voted to add it to the CDC’s recommended childhood vaccine schedule, even though it has not been fully licensed by FDA for use in children. The past three years has [sic] taught us that federal health officials have politicized the COVID vaccine development, licensing, and policymaking process and rubber-stamped the questionable science provided by pharmaceutical companies.

Now it is up to parents to let their state legislators know they want vaccine informed consent protections in public health laws and are opposed being forced to give their children the COVID vaccine as a condition of attending school, receiving medical care or for any other reason.” ~ Barbara Loe Fisher, president and co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC)

https://rumble.com/v1om0n2-vaccinated-athletes-dropping-dead-in-peak-condition.html  News story here  (Approx. 19 Min)

Healthy Athletes in Perfect condition Dropping Dead after COVID Shots

Dr. Peter McCullough discusses the myocarditis after the shots and the perfectly healthy dying.

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FREE Online Screening: The Real Anthony Fauci

https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/viewing  Video Here

The Real Anthony Fauci

Free Online Screening

“The Real Anthony Fauci,” a full-length feature documentary based on Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s runaway bestseller, will be available to watch free — for 10 days only — beginning Oct. 18 at 12:01 a.m. Eastern.

The film, produced by Jeff Hays, exposes Fauci’s influence on government policy, the pharmaceutical industry and medical research.

It also examines the relationship between Big Pharma and the military, the outsized power of the news media and the concentration of technology companies.

The documentary’s launch follows in the wake of Fauci’s Sept. 21 admission that he was aware the “draconian” COVID-19 policies he dictated would have negative consequences on the economy and schoolchildren.

It also follows an investigation by OpenTheBooks.com that showed Fauci’s net worth jumped to $12.6 million between 2019 through 2021 — an increase of $5 million.

Fauci is ‘a puppet to an even bigger, more perversive system’

Key takeaways from the film:

  • Fauci’s criminal behavior stems back to the HIV/AIDS epidemic. In order to understand the strategies that were employed during the COVID epidemic, the answers can be found at the beginning of Anthony Fauci’s career, when he became director of the NIAID [National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases] in the year 1984.
  • Once Fauci partnered with Bill Gates in 2000, profiteering, gain-of-function experimentation and the amplification of vaccination in Africa, India, America and beyond really accelerated dramatically. Starting in 2001, there was a new epidemic scare almost every other year — whether it was a bioterrorism threat or of zoonotic origin.
  • Fauci has utilized a specific tried-and-true ‘playbook’ with each epidemic or burgeoning pandemic over the past 40 years.
  • Fauci is a government employee whose finances should be transparent, and yet his payouts (and those of the scientists that work for him) are shrouded in secrecy.  FOIA [Freedom of Information Act] documents on Fauci have been extremely difficult to obtain, and those financial documents that have been released are heavily redacted, which should raise a huge red flag.
  • Fauci is the highest-paid government employee. He earns more than the President of the United States. His net worth is approximately $12 million, and growing.

Fauci has publicly stated that he will step down as director from the NIAID in December, but the fight is not over after he is no longer in office.

Fauci is a figure in a larger disturbing story that continues to unfold.

“One of the most disturbing takeaways I got from Bobby’s book was that although Fauci is at the center of this 40-year corruption and his influence is enormous and worldwide — he is still a puppet to an even bigger, more pervasive system in place.” ~ Kala Mandrake

Evidently, half of the people that worked on the film were not willing to have their names on it for fear of retaliationSource

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**Comment**

I highly recommend this film.  It wades through the AIDS debacle, chronic illness, the use of manufactured “pandemics,’ and the fact Fauci is a proponent of allopathic medicine run by Big Pharma.  He is directly behind the monopolization of medicine and research – making both bought-out entities that are no longer to be trusted.  Similarly to his denial and maligning of inexpensive, generic, safe COVID treatments, he has stymied research into safe drugs that work by using his position for political power.

There’s a ton of information presented that helps explain why Lymeland is where it’s at.  The timeline lines up perfectly with the rule and reign of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

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90 (And Counting) Young Canadian Doctors Dead After COVID Jabs, Studies Show More Clotting – Natural Immunity Still Better

**UPDATE Nov. 2022**

Originally posted as 80 doctors, unfortunately this number continues to climb and is now at least 90 doctors dead after the COVID shots without ANY investigation by the organization supposedly protecting its members, the Canadian Medical Association (CMA).  The agency has ignored two letters of concern with research findings from Dr. William Makis and has turned around and stated that this doctor’s research is dangerous “disinformation.”

When you can’t offer any meaningful dialog or answers, just name-call and bully those who give inconvenient data.

These medical associations are completely controlled by unelected officials in bed with Big Pharma who are using censorship and persecution tactics against any doctors who dissent from the accepted narrative. These organizations need to be disbanded and rendered defunct.  

https://brightlightnews.com/80-young-canadian-docs-died-since-vaccine-rollout-dr-makis-pleads-with-cma-to-investigate/

80 Young Canadian Docs Died Since “Vaccine” Rollout -Dr. Makis Pleads With CMA To Investigate

80 young Canadian doctors have died since the Covid-19 “vaccines” were given “warp-speed” emergency authorization without any long-term safety or efficacy data. The short-term data submitted to approving regulatory health agencies around the world have been exposed to be corrupt, rife with fraudulent data manipulation and poor laboratory management, patient safety concerns, and data integrity issues exposed by whistleblower Brook Jackson at the Ventavia-run Pfizer phase III trial site.

Dr. William Makis, MD (watch our interview here on 32 Canadian doctor deaths or see video below), has been investigating and raising alarm bells since the rollout of Covid-19 “vaccines” in Dec. 2020. Dr. Makis defines “a young doctor” as someone up to 70-years-old, given most physicians practice into their 60’s and 70’s and are generally healthy individuals.

Dr. Makis penned another letter for the Canadian Medical Association (CMA) presidents, Dr. Alika Lafontaine and Dr. Katharine Smart, October 15, 2022, raising concerns about the “sudden deaths” of 80 young Canadian doctors since the rollout of the COVID-19 “Vaccines” and vaccine mandates. His first letter to the CMA regarding 32 deaths young doctor deaths temporally related to the vaccine rollout went ignored.

Read Dr. Makis’ letter.

Follow Dr. Makis on Getter LINK.

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https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/covid-vaccine-and-blood-clots

The Trail of Blood From the COVID Jabs

These two doctors claim they’ve discovered a way to test for spike protein in human tissue, and they’ve found spike protein in individuals who were injured or died from the shots.

covid vaccine and blood clots

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

  • Abnormal blood clotting was one of the first mysterious health effects to emerge in the COVID pandemic, first, as an effect of the natural infection, and later, as a side effect of the COVID jabs. By mid-March 2021, 20 countries had suspended the use of AstraZeneca’s COVID shot, either in full or in part, following reports of deadly blood clots
  • In December 2021, a team of international scientists detailed the mechanism behind the AstraZeneca jab’s propensity to trigger blood clots. The shell of the vector — a weakened chimpanzee cold virus — in some people acts like a magnet and attracts platelets. Your body mistakes these platelets as a threat and produces antibodies to fight them, resulting in dangerous blood clots
  • Israeli researchers have also linked the Pfizer jab with a rare blood clotting disorder
  • A Swedish study found two doses of the COVID jab were 43% protective against Omicron infection at week 4. By week 14, protection had dropped to zero. Effectiveness against COVID-related hospitalization remained around 80% until week 25, but dropped to 40% by week 40. Using one statistical analysis method, COVID jabbed Swedes had a higher risk of death or hospitalization from COVID roughly a year after receiving their second dose
  • A recent case report links the COVID shots to lethal myocarditis (heart inflammation) and encephalitis (brain inflammation)

Steve Kirsch goes on to cite other evidence showing the COVID shots can kill, including a report20 titled “On COVID Vaccines: Why They Cannot Work, and Irrefutable Evidence of Their Causative Role in the Deaths After Vaccination,” written by Drs. Sucharit Bhakdi and Arne Burkhardt.

“Of the 15 bodies their team examined — all of whom had died seven days to six months’ post-jab — 14 (93%) were found to have been killed by the COVID shot.

Bhakdi and Burkhardt claim to have developed a way to test for spike protein in human tissue, and say they’ve found spike protein in the tissues of people who have been injured and/or killed by the jabs.

(See link for article)

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Red Cross admits they are not separating “vaccinated” from “unvaccinated” blood.

Baby Alexander before and after the blood transfusion (Source: Cornelia Hertzler via Gatway Pundit)

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https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/japanese-researchers-publish-cases-of-strange-blood-clots-following-pfizer-covid-vaccines/

Japanese Researchers Publish Cases of Strange Blood Clots Following Pfizer COVID Vaccines

by Brian Shilhavy, Oct. 8, 2022
Editor, Health Impact News

Excerpts:

More cases of damage done by the COVID-19 vaccines continue to be published in the medical journals, and now Japanese researchers have published a couple of cases of unusual blood clots found through autopsies after the Pfizer COVID vaccines that seem to corroborate what some funeral home embalmers are also reporting in terms of strange blood clots found in the bodies of dead people.

A study published in the November, 2022 edition of Legal Medicine titled An autopsy case report of aortic dissection complicated with histiolymphocytic pericarditis and aortic inflammation after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, reported about a Japanese male in his 90s with no previous illness that died two weeks after his third dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.

The report of microscopic examination is interesting because they report seeing “elastic fibers” similar to what Richard Hirschman, a funeral home director and embalmer, has also reported seeing.

A second Japanese case was published in Thrombosis Journal titled Histopathologically TMA-like distribution of multiple organ thromboses following the initial dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine (Comirnaty, Pfizer/BioNTech): an autopsy case report.

This case was a 72-year-old woman who received the first dose of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine and died 2 days later.

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https://thehighwire.com/videos/natural-immunity-better-in-new-covid-vaccine-studies/  Video Here (Approx. 13 Min)

Natural Immunity is Better Than COVID Injections

 

Numerous studies now demonstrate Covid mRNA injections fail to stop infection or transmission, while also establishing that natural immunity, once again, is superior to the Pharma products.

This shouldn’t shock anyone. The COVID shots have only shown what history has repeatedly shown: natural immunity is robust, long lasting, and more complete than “vaccination.” Further, these mRNA injections actually cause pathogenic priming, specifically antibody enhancement (ADE)- setting you up to become infected. These injections are linked to more VAERS reports of adverse reactions and death than any other vaccine in the history of VAERS.

More keeps tumbling out of the COVID shot barrel of monkeys including results of lawsuits exposing the following derived from this source:

  • Of the 10 million people enrolled in V-Safe, 7.7% (770,000 people) required medical care after getting the shot 
  • 25% (2.5 million people) missed work or school or suffered a serious side effect that affected their day-to-day life
  • Four million people — 40% — reported joint pain.
  • Two million, or 20%, reported “moderate” joint pain
  • 400,000, 4%, classified the pain as “severe”
  • the formula the CDC uses to trigger a safety signal is seriously flawed, because the more dangerous a vaccine is, the less likely it is that a safety signal will be triggered.
  • even using the flawed formula, “death” meets all three safety signal criteria and should have been flagged
  • options for reporting a side effect are predefined and very generic, so people might be experiencing effects that didn’t fit any of the predefined categories of injury.
  • death is not reportable to V-Safe, as dead people cannot use their phones which makes it impossible to know how many actually have died
  • Not only has the CDC taken no action, they deliberately concealed all the V-Safe data from everyone the entire time, until they were sued.  See this three part series on how they did this: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
  • The mainstream media are ignoring all of this which means it’s up to us to inform our loved ones. 
  • Please see this video of civil rights attorney Aaron Siri explain the data, and go here for ICAN’s V-Safe data obtained from the CDC.

The CDC needs to explain why they spent our tax dollars to fight the release of the V-Safe data for 15 months, and why they didn’t halt the shots when a “death” signal was evident. The mainstream press, members of Congress, the medical community and Universities also need to explain why they refuse to investigate these CDC data. To that end, here are a few suggestions for how you can help:

  • Support Sen. Ron Johnson, currently the only senator willing to investigate the truth of the COVID jabs.
  • Write or call your members of Congress and ask them to investigate the CDC’s safety monitoring. As noted by Kirsch, “You simply cannot have a safety agency not be able to monitor safety.”
  • Contact your local newspaper and urge them to investigate and report on the V-Safe data, the VAERS data and the CDC’s failure to act when a safety signal was detected.
  • Share the data on social media and ask why no one in the media, Congress, academia or medical community is investigating these matters.
  • Share this information with your doctor and members of the medical community.
  • Also share it with university administrators, and ask them to explain how and why, in light of these facts, they are still mandating COVID shots for their students.
 

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People Are Dropping Like Flies
Robert Jay Rowen, MD
I know you have seen deaths in the movies. Of course, these are acted. But, have you ever seen people actually keeling over and dropping dead for real? I just saw a jaw dropping video that tore me up. Young people simply collapsing in the midst of talking or competing. You might want to take a look at this video. But I warn you, it is graphic and horrifying:  https://tinyurl.com/mr3ssxrx

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The CDC manipulates, hides, and dumps data whenever it disagrees with their accepted narrative. They’ve been doing this in Lymeland for over 40 years.  And the CDC rigs the system for their own vested interests.

CDC Did Not Put COVID Shots On Childhood Schedule – But it Ain’t Over

**UPDATE**

Barbara Loe Fisher, co-founder and president of the National Vaccine Information Center, told The Epoch Times in an email that if the COVID-19 vaccines weren’t added to the schedule this week, they likely would be in the future.

There has not been one vaccine that has been produced by the pharmaceutical industry and licensed for children in the U.S. that has not been eventually recommended by federal health officials for children and placed on the CDC’s childhood vaccine schedule,” she said.

The article also states that while the CDC sought to distance itself from mandates, some jurisdictions adopt virtually all CDC guidelines as mandates. Similarly to how virtually all medical doctors/clinics adopt antiquated, unscientific CDC/IDSA Lyme guidelines.  CDC “guidelines” ARE essentially mandates.

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/cdc-did-not-put-the-covid-vaccines?

CDC did not put the COVID vaccines on the childhood schedule today

What happens tomorrow? My liveblog with some useful additions

CDC did something strange today: they added COVID to the Vaccines for Children program, which is a federal entitlement program that pays for vaccines for kids who don’t have other insurance. But it was not necessary to do this yet, as CDC cannot buy EUA vaccines. The COVID vaccines (as well as monoclonal antibodies, some other drugs, PCR and rapid tests) are unlicensed experimental products. EUA vaccines cannot be sold. The government buys them and your taxes pay for them.

CDC spends about 5 billion dollars a year to buy vaccines on the childhood schedule for kids on medicaid or without insurance from the manufacturers. Here is the price list.

So the vote today meant that once the COVID vaccines are sold commercially, they will be included in the Vaccines for Children program. At some time that was unspecified.

There was no clear explanation why this vote was held today, when CDC is jumping the gun. Did the CDC switch out a vote on adding COVID vaccines to the childhood schedule for a different vote at the last minute?

The CDC briefer, Jeanne Santoli, who was trying to explain why the members were voting on this, gave a very short and non-explanatory talk. I just timed her and it lasted all of 3 minutes. It was totally unlike the presentations by other briefers. Jose Romero, who is the Director of CDC’s National Center for Immunizations and Respiratory Diseases, followed her and said this is not about the childhood schedule. You can listen to them and read the slides at 6 hours 31 minutes and draw your own conclusions.

The more I think about it, the more I believe that the VFC vote was a last-minute plug-in and that CDC cancelled a vote on adding the COVID vaccines to the childhood schedule, which would cause them to be required for most American kids to attend school. The midterms are coming, after all. And people are watching.

Below is my live blog.

merylnass: It is October 19, 2022 and the CDC has scheduled a 2 day meeting of its advisory committee. However, CDC has been cagey about what they plan to change in the childhood schedule.

merylnass: There is a large vaccine lineup to be discussed:chikungunya, pneumococcal vaccines, flu vaccines, meningococcal vaccines, RSV vaccines, monkeypox vaccines and dengue vaccine.

merylnass: I had to give it a couple of extra clicks to get the show to start at https://video.ibm.com/channel/VWBXKBR8af4

merylnass: Does anyone have any memory of when the CDC or ACIP responded to comments at any time in the past? CHD encouraged comments regarding the authorization of COVID vaccines for the youngest kids–I think about 40,000 comments were sent. CDC was silent. Crickets. No response.

merylnass: Dr. Nirav Shah, the head of the Maine CDC, a smart narrative pusher, has now joined the ACIP. Dr. Kevin Ault is now gone–did he criticize the vaccines for COVID?

merylnass: Katherine Paling, Cybil Cinneas, Camille Kotton, Sarah Long, Nirav Shah,Matt Daley, Oliver Brooks, Lynn Bhata RN, Jamie Lehrer, Wilbur Chen, Keipp Talbot, Beth Bell, Ms. Veronica McNally, Dr. Sanchez, Grace Lee.

merylnass: These are the voting members. Now they go through the ex officio, nonvoting members.

merylnass: The CMS and FDA members are MIA. That is odd. Office of ID and HIV_AIDS policy is also missing—he came late. Sean O’Leary is an ex officio and he also made a comment to the last meeting, strongly in favor of covid vax for kids.

No AMA rep. Normally that would be Dr. Sandra Fryhofer. She came late. Stinchfield also made a comment last time–I’d wager the CDC asked its ex officios to weigh in and give it some support last time. Society for adolescent medicine is also missing. It is odd that so many are missing, especially the FDA member who might be needed for the discussions.

merylnass: There are several pneumococcal vaccines and clarification for which should be used when is needed. Pfizer and Merck have 2 each for adults.

merylnass: The numbers in the names refer to the number of strains aka serotypes of pneumococcal bacteria included in each vaccine. In general, the more serotypes, the more cost.

merylnass: I will again note that CDC has a 100 million dollar media center but it seems to use a $20 dollar setup for the ACIP meetings, which are chock full of delays, disconnections, and now a ten minute break. We never see the faces of the speakers and there is no livestreaming.

merylnass: The break appears to be due to difficulty connecting the speaker. These glitches may serve to cover up deliberate glitches when someone is saying something the CDC does not want the public to hear.

merylnass: Pablo Sanchez has arrived and the system is back up. Sandra Fryhofer is here too.

merylnass: No one has acknowledged any conflicts of interest

merylnass: Anyone else finding the sound keeps cutting off?

merylnass: Best I can tell, in the silence, this will be a presentation of modelling and therefore another example of how CDC hates to use real data

merylnass: Rochelle, what’s up with the $100 million media center? Suggest you try Zoom.

merylnass: Finally I refreshed the page and learned I have missed a bunch

merylnass: The guesstimate is that it costs a lot of money to save a single year of life–hundreds of thousands of dollars. Who pays the costs? Whose life is saved? If you save a 70 year old for 10 years, it might cost $4 million. Did the money come from another program or is it from moneyprinting that will debase the currency and cause inflation?

merylnass: And most of the benefits are speculative.

merylnass: How much is a life worth? In other places $100K/year or $127K/yr have been suggested. So using these models, the vaccine is too expensive given the benefits.

merylnass: Maine’s Dr. Shah is the first questioner. They can’t find slide 12. how can that be?

merylnass: Did anyone hear how long the vaccine lasts? Why do these people get so many different pneumococcal vaccines?

merylnass: No one understands this comparison, which is all modelling anyway.

merylnass: As western civilization ends, the science becomes unintelligible

merylnass: Let’s move on to something else and maybe some of the members will be able to understand that one.

merylnass: Note that PCV 23 is the OLDEST vaccine. Its efficacy was called into question at least 15 years ago, and it causes significant inflammation when given. You would think that the broadest spectrum vaccine would be the most beneficial, but all these other vaccines have been created because PCV23 is not that good. Instead of replacing it, they just keep adding more kinds.

merylnass: Now the slide show fails again. CDC is such a clown show. The Keystone Cops. 13,000 employees. A 15 billion per year budget.

merylnass: The evidence to recommendations part of the discussion is the BS part, in which all sorts of fluffy considerations are thrown together to conclude whatever CDC wants the committee to conclude. Note that her slide was based on “claims data” so you cannot check the database and make sure what she is telling you is accurate

merylnass: Invasive pneumococcal disease numbers come from CDC, but there is no reference where we can look up the data and see how it was derived.

merylnass: Now she admits they used estimates for some of the numbers.

merylnass: When PCV13 vaccine was introduced, there was no reduction in disease, and in fact a slight increase.

merylnass: Pfizer study admits the new serotypes in PCV20 only account for 3-4% of cases–not a great benefit, especially when Pfizer is telling you.

merylnass: Not sure that data gathered during the pandemic is that accurate, when people would do anything to stay out of the hospital.

merylnass: The newer vaccines “are expected” to do better than the old PCV23–wait, what? The conjugate vaccines have been available for decades and are very expensive. They still don’t know how well they work?

merylnass: Note: no PCV20 efficacy or effectiveness data

merylnass: Gee whiz, we are looking at antibodies 1 month post vax. Means nothing. And the data must suck, because they provide no numbers for us to evaluate. This is a travesty: believe what I say, as I won’t show you the data.

merylnass: Now we look at anticipated benefits, since we don’t have data to tell us the benefits. Even so, the benefits predicted are slim. They never tell us how the workgroup voted when there is questionable benefit. Then, anticipating no side effects, you might as well add this new 20 valent vaccine since of course all vaccines bring tremendous benefits and no adverse events

merylnass: Maybe the fact they were already vaccinated with older vaccines has something to do with benefit? Pfizer surveyed medical providers and they liked the vaccine, but liked it least for adults who are healthy and already had 2 different PCV vaccines.

merylnass: GIGO again. Complex assumptions that vary between models for the Pfizer and Merck vaccines, thus of limited value.

merylnass: Still quite expensive to gain years of life for people in their 70s and up–up to half a million per year to gain a bit more life–and this is based on modelling that is entirely unreliable.

merylnass: Now she fails to show how the work group voted–but I can assume they were not favorable

merylnass: The Affordable Care Act was a giveaway to vaccine mfrs. Once the vaccine is recommended by this committee, insurance is required to cover the cost 100%–no copay or deductible–by one year after the recommendation is made. This is how Obama was able to claim he was all in on prevention. Note that this allowed vaccine prices to skyrocket.

merylnass: Now they give Merck a special dispensation to weigh in!!! What did that cost Merck?

merylnass: He asks them to remember that the oldest PCV23 vaccine works, and “remains a good option.” In other words, you don’t have great data for the PCV20, and our old vaccine works (but maybe it works, unclear about that) so use us not Pfizer.

merylnass: One thing these members hate is complexity and this PCV20 vaccine addition will make a complicated schedule even more complicated.

merylnass: Dr. Brook says maybe vaccinating the kids will help the adults (and then you won’t need to vaccinate the adults, since that appears to be what happened when the Prevnar vaccines rolled out.

merylnass: Dr. Long: this is difficult stuff. The work group rarely settled on a single answer, and we were a problematic group. What they should have concluded is that there is not enough benefit to go with the new vaccine, and can revisit the issue after the vaccine is used in the population, probably by the immunocompromised, and then see how much benefit and risk it conveys.

merylnass: Dr. Shah from Maine points out the issue of having to stock so many similar vaccines. It means the clinics throw more away; it costs the clinics more; the staff make more mistakes.

merylnass: Grace Lee likes the new vaccine for the immunocompromised for 12,000 Americans. But the mfrs will not produce vaccines for such a small population and will rely on general use, once recommended.

merylnass: Helen Keipp Talbot points out that the models ignore post-hospital disability and this would make the vaccines more useful.

merylnass: Sarah Long points out that the PCV7 in kids helped adults, but the PCV13, which came out later, did not–so the PCV20 may not either. I like her.

merylnass: I suspect the cost of the PCV20, based on Prevnar costs, is likely to be $250-300 per dose.

merylnass: The last speaker implies they should approve it now cause it takes a year to get the insurers to cover it, so let’s get ahead of that

merylnass: This speaker says they should put pressure on Pharma for rational pricing. Duh. Lowered price could make cost-effectiveness better.

merylnass: Kudos to the pharmacist who represents a national organization for pointing out pharmacists generally do not have access to the medical record and cannot necessarily make good decisions and provide good advice to patients

merylnass: Current speaker said she got the PCV20 and insurance would not pay and she was charged $247 for a dose out of pocket–because it was not recommended by ACIP for a year, I guess.

merylnass: Be aware how arbitrary the decisions this committee will make will be, based on little more than speculation

merylnass: The staff are asked to provide cleaner questions for a vote. Because the members are confused by what is being asked of them. Dr. Kobayashi wants to clarify. It seems there are never too many vaccines and never too many permutations for how they can be used.

merylnass: I am avoiding all this minutiae about changes to existing recommendations. But note the vagueness of the adverse event information. You don’t learn what they are. And you get a meaningless statement that most of the reactions were mild or moderate and not severe. Well, that is true of every vaccine I know of. It conveys no information. It hides relevant information. It fills in the space where real data about adverse events should be specified with their rates, but are not.

merylnass: Ten minute break till 11:35. We are already nearly an hour behind.

merylnass: Chikungunya vaccine now. Votes on the pneumococcal vaccines later.

merylnass: No chik vaccine has ever been licensed, but I am aware of attempts to make one for probably 30 years. Which may mean there are intrinsic problems with making a vaccine for this condition.

merylnass: The US government’s DOD has long been interested in this virus, though there were no US outbreaks until 2013.

merylnass: Aedes aegypti and albopictus daytime dusk-dawn mosquitos carry it, but there can be vertical transmission, needlestick, and even airborne in labs.

merylnass: Note that we are not told how frequent the serious complications may be. Not good in pregnancy, it seems. Usually it lasts 7-10 days but there is occasional prolonged symptomatology

merylnass: It seems the studies are not very helpful. Bug repellants are the preventive.

merylnass: Valneva and Emergent BioSolutions, the crooked anthrax vaccine mfr that threw away the ingredients for 400 million doses of cOVID vaccines due to contamination is developing one vaccine–stay away from it. They also now own a cholera and a typhoid vaccine. Their typhoid vaccine made one of my patients fairly ill 2 years ago.

merylnass: There is also a Merck and an Indian candidate vaccine, both sponsored by CEPI (started by Bill Gates)

merylnass: It seems there is an interesting business plan: bring a tropical disease to the US that was never seen there before, then bring in a new vaccine for the disease. This has happened with Dengue and Dengvaxia

merylnass: They say that human challenge studies can be justified. This new unethical way of studying a vaccine is apparently now joining the ranks of acceptable clinical science.

merylnass: It looks like the Animal Rule is being invoked to get the Valneva version licensed under accelerated approval. Dr. Chen asks who is really at risk of a complicated course?

merylnass: Remember that less than 100 Americans per year get this infection, though the numbers could rise. Dr. Hills sounds stressed, as if she does not want to answer, probably due to lack of data. Though mother-fetus transmission can be devastating.

merylnass: Dr. Brooks asks how outbreaks get started–especially in the US, when the disease is so rare?

merylnass: She dodges the question of how it gets to a place where it has not previously been seen.

merylnass: Dr. Dubischar from Valneva now presents on their candidate vaccine. It is live with a genetic deletion of 60 amino acids in one protein.

merylnass: Neutralizing antibodies–human sera injected into monkeys who were then challenged with the real virus. The injected primates had no fever and most lacked live replicating virus. Some did have virus but lower titers. Valneva believes they have identified a dose that will provide sterilizing immunity, i.e., no virus growing in patients after vaccination and exposure.

merylnass: Some monkeys did grow virus, which is what is telling Valneva how large a dose to use to prevent virus in the vaccinated and exposed.

merylnass: Medium dose (3 x 10 to the 4th) viral particles is being used.

merylnass: They were allowed to skip Phase 2 by assuming that the booster dose acted as a challenge study.

merylnass: Solicited adverse events were only collected for 10 days–nice work if you can get it! Great way to avoid finding serious side effects. Vaccinees followed up to 6 months for unsolicited side effects.

merylnass: Odd that neutralizing antibodies were identical in those over and under 65 years.

merylnass: The immunogenicity seems remarkable, with antibodies in over 96% at 6 months. The side effect profiles are not good however.

merylnass: 50% had systemic AEs, some severe fevers

merylnass: 17% of recipients got joint pain vs 5% in placebo. In 3,000 subjects, one case of SIADH occurred 10 days after his shot. One developed muscle pain requiring a 5 day hospitalization. Serious AEs in 1 in 1500 recipients–but more may have been overlooked because of the short duration of active surveillance.

merylnass: 73% had any AE. Seems like you will be better off accepting a very low risk of getting chikungunya than taking a chance with this vaccine.

merylnass: Why is the ACIP looking at these vaccines before they are licensed? This makes sure there is a lot less data and less give and take because they don’t have the info that would have been presented to FDA.

merylnass: While pregnant women are the ones who would potentially get the most benefit, the company is clearly scared to death to test the vaccine in them, as it is a live vaccine and will likely cause intrauterine infection.

merylnass: 0.3% had joint pain severe enough to interfere with daily activities. Mean duration 8 days.

merylnass: Dr. Sanchez asked about the joint pains–any arthritis? And pregnancy?

merylnass: OOps. She had to admit women did get pregnant during the study and they had miscarriages and normal births and she claims it was what would be expected generally. If so, she would have presented those data as evidence of safety. The fact that she failed to present them initially suggests there is a potential problem. Dr. Sanchez asked if the fetus got infected? She says we didn’t look. That is the clincher.

merylnass: Now the speaker was instructed by a committee member to do pregnancy studies in monkeys.

merylnass: Now CDC presents again on the vax. 100 of 462 subjects were dropped due to protocol deviations–this is a high dropout rate.

merylnass: Most stopped coming back. Hmmm.

merylnass: 2% had a severe adverse event. That is VERY HIGH, especially when the placebo group only had 0.1%

merylnass: 2% of the subjects had joint pain for over 15 days. Sounds like we are normalizing prolonged side effects from vaccines now

merylnass: The data have only had a preliminary review–so why is this being presented to ACIP when it seems there is no good reason to license this, as there is almost no chikungunya disease in the US and the side effect profile is poor; furthermore, there were no data presented to convince us the disease is a serious problem.

merylnass: Except in pregnancy, for whom the vaccine is probably too dangerous.

merylnass: Someone asked about simultaneous live virus vaccines being given. I will say that in literature 20 years ago, giving lives vaccines together was said to reduce the immunity induced.

merylnass: So it was NOT RECOMMENDED to give live vaccines together. But that was when there was still a modicum of real science. I am not surprised Valneva refused to answer.

merylnass: Hills from CDC also refused to take up the question.

merylnass: Severe immunocompromise will be a contraindication to this vaccine

merylnass: What a cluster. A dangerous vaccine for which limited data are made available for what is usually a minor disease that almost does not exist in the US.

merylnass: Break till 1:30

merylnass: Next up, COVID VACCINES

merylnass: From a 2007 Senate report headed by Tom Coburn https://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/cdc_off_center.pdf

CDC’s $106 million Thomas R. Harkin Global Communications (and Visitor) CenterCDC’s new $109.8 million Arlen Specter Headquarters and Emergency Operations Center has $10 million in furniture • CDC’s $200,000 fitness center includes $30,000 saunas and rotating light shows • CDC’s new Hawaii office announced by Hawaii Senator who oversees CDC funds

merylnass: No wonder they don’t manage to do competent reviews of vaccines; they are spending too much time in the saunas or at the Hawaii office. Remember that these amounts are 2006 dollars

merylnass: Announcement: TODAY the Novavax was approved by FDA for use as a booster in addition to an initial vaccine for adults. Despite the ACIP meeting today,the members were not asked to approve this rollout, and Rochelle Walensky has already approved it for adults. Strange omission.

merylnass: The lesson is that the fed agencies are in a RUSH to get all this investigational garbage into arms as fast as possible before the entire program explodes.

merylnass: 7 days ago the FDA granted an authorization for moderna and Pfizer boosters for kids 5 years and up.

merylnass: Ellington slipped and just said “pregnant women” and then slipped in the word people a few words later.

merylnass: The data being presented here come from a BMJ article published in 2020–when there were much more severe variants and much fewer treatments available, so it is not surprising that pregnant WOMEN had significantly worse morbidity and mortality than non-pregnant women. Pregnancy itself turns down the immune system

merylnass: While the intent of the presentation is to scare us regarding 1-6 month old babies, in fact COVID was present in only 0.5% of babies who died over the pandemic.

merylnass: This presentation uses CDC’s VSD data to assess risk of vaccination in pregnancy from the earlier vaccines. This database in earlier studies never showed a problem with the mRNA vaccines. Finally it did so re myocarditis, but has failed to find any other problems. I suspect there is a crooked method of analysis. CDC never lets us know how these numbers were derived, how they adjust them and how they analyze the raw data.

merylnass: As expected, these data claim you supposedly actually benefit slightly in terms of miscarriage from the vaccine.

merylnass: And they are assiduously studying the data and stay tuned for more happy news

merylnass: I have screenshot all the people involved in these studies for future reference so we can get them discussing these studies with their hands on a bible

merylnass: The V-safe data shows less than half the expected miscarriages in vaccinated moms. Do you believe these data? Of course not–it is impossible to have such low rates. That proves there is a problem with the study.

merylnass: Furthermore, the claim is being made that comparing vaccinated pregnant women to vaccinated pregnant women who got covid, the covid patients did not have a worse fetal outcome. How likely is that?

merylnass: Now Fleming-Dutra presents and gives the commercial that everyone should stay up to date with the vaccine and pregnant and breastfeeding women should especially get it. What? Her data claim the vaccine worked wonderfully for Delta. But here is some DOD contractor data on Delta in the vaccinated elders—about 10% benefit

merylnass: Now the bivalent commercial. But they will show no bivalent data.

merylnass: Note that almost every presenter is from CDC and they have had a team work on the presentations so every word has been crafted. That is probably why you aren’t allowed to see the presenters, because they are reading their script.

merylnass: These data on omicron and delta carefully avoid any numbers after 4 months post vaccination, when efficacy goes to zero and worse

merylnass: But other charts that followed people to 6 months and beyond show how useless they become, and then worse than useless.

merylnass: I am going to post this speaker’s diagram on efficacy on my substack during the next break, so you can see how different the longer-term results are, and how the vaccine didn’t work well for delta either.

merylnass: No infant protection when pregnant women were vaccinated before 20 weeks!!!!

merylnass: This woman is working hard to get up the CDC ladder by throwing all women and children under the bus.

merylnass: Thanks Dr. Sanchez for asking about monoclonal antibodies in pregnancy. The briefer does not answer the question, turning it into a vaccine question. Someone else says we have not been collecting data on the use of other therapies.

merylnass: No one wants to talk about the monoclonal antibodies in pregnancy, which is relevant to my legal case, as the state has claimed I should have used monoclonals in a pregnant woman.

merylnass: But they (the vaccines) are experimental while the drugs I used are fully licensed and effective.

merylnass: More missing data for Sarah Long’s question.

merylnass: Some of the CDC people on MISC could not be here today. Let me point out that these slackers are working from home, and they could have been available for questions had CDC wanted them available.

merylnass: Sarah Long asks about what symptoms the hospitalized, covid-infected babies had…and 3 different CDC briefers refused to answer. Is that because they only had sniffles and were hospitalized for something else? Were they asymptomatic and tested positive incidentally?

merylnass: Great, someone points out that 77% of women are not vaxxed, though this telephone survey data says they are. In the data I have seen, about 1/3 of pregnant women took a covid shot, not 3/4. In this survey, CDC phones people and asks if they are vaccinated–and many people simply tell CDC they are vaxxed when they are not. If memory serves, once CDC used this NHANES survey to estimate that more Americans had gotten a flu shot than the number of flu shots that had been manufactured distributed in the US.

merylnass: The above paragraph is about pregnant women and now the members are saying “I find these data sketchy!”

merylnass: Fleming-Dutra: vaccine was less effective with omicron. She did not answer the question asked, which was what is the ideal time to vaccinate in pregnancy. I saw a slide go by that said the baby got no benefit during the first 20 weeks. Now these CDC apparatchiks want women to get 1 vaccination during the first 20 weeks and another dose during the second half of the pregnancy. I do not have a name for these evil doctors.

merylnass: They can still surprise me by how awful their suggestions are and how they just keep getting worse. Now the ACOG rep is calling them “pregnant individuals.” She is an obstetrician and she does not know the gender of her patients?

merylnass: Sara Oliver, oh no. 6month-4 year olds had the highest hospitalization rate she says. But a previous speaker said the 0-6 month olds had the highest rate. How fun that they cannot keep the lies straight.

merylnass: Sara fails to tell us where these data come from and what all the numbers were. She claims incorrectly that myocarditis is 1.8-5.6x higher after infection than after the shot.

merylnass: Sara says we are just discussing the current recommendations. Is she saying they are not going to put the vaxxes on the childhood schedule? Who knows what the forked tongue doctors of the Centers for Dissimulation, Craftiness and Prevarication really mean

merylnass: She is reminding us to give boosters to all kids aged 5 and up

merylnass: For immunocompromised kids, they want 3 initial doses. May I point out that although the CDC encourages mix and match mRNA vaccines, a very important study from 4 Nordic countries showed that by giving a Moderna after a Pfizer in children, you increased the likelihood of myocarditis by a factor of two compared to giving both doses of Moderna. Furthermore, many countries in Europe do not allow you to give the Moderna vaccine to children and younger adults because of this. So CDC should never have encouraged mixing the vaccines. Here is some info I put together in August about this:

 In 7 European countries, people below certain ages were not recommended to get Moderna shots, but as of June babies as young as 6 months can get Moderna injections.

Sweden—not under 30 https://www.wilx.com/2021/10/07/some-european-countries-suspend-moderna-shots-those-30-under/

Norway—not under 30 ”

Denmark—not under 18 ”

Finland—not under 30–https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/nordic-countries-are-restricting-the-use-of-modernas-covid-vaccine.html

Iceland:  “Iceland is using the vaccine almost exclusively as a booster for those 60 years and older, and advising men aged 18-39 against receiving Moderna’s vaccine (here).” https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-europe-moderna/fact-check-some-european-countries-halted-moderna-covid-19-vaccines-for-young-people-idUSL1N2RE22K

Germany —not under 30. https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/11/10/germany-france-restrict-modernas-covid-vaccine-for-under-30s-over-rare-heart-risk-despite-surging-cases/

France—not under 30. https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/11/10/germany-france-restrict-modernas-covid-vaccine-for-under-30s-over-rare-heart-risk-despite-surging-cases/

merylnass: Now she says that incorporating covid vaxxes in the immunization schedule and the vaccines for children program (govt paid) is a step toward including them into a regular routine schedule, which will happen once the vaccines are commercially sold, and can have the 75 cent excise tax added that is necessary to be placed on the childhood schedule.

merylnass: Jeanne Santoli notes the youngest kids got authorized 120 days ago. It appears this is getting the vaccines ready to become normal products for kids that are not EUA products. Commercialized. At that point vaccines can be ordered through the VFC, which is a govt program that supplies free vaccines for about 55% of US children. In other words, what the USG is doing si worming the vaccines slowly into the childhood schedule by taking baby steps toward that, and this is one baby step.

merylnass: A member is asking for clarity on whether this is going to put it on the schedule and mandate it. Jose Romero says they are not putting it on the childhood schedule yet.

merylnass: But now he is backpedalling–“CDC does not make state recommendations for vaccines”–yet CDC knows that many states have adopted the CDC recs as their own.

merylnass: A good question: will the vaccine still be part of the CICP or moved to the VICP? Melinda Wharton says the vaccines stay in the CICP.

merylnass: Things are ahead of schedule!

merylnass: Comments. I love David Wiseman, who point out that CDC is recommending use in pregnancy that is much broader than the manufacturers’ own claims.

merylnass: I noticed when the ex-officio members were listed today that 2 (TWO) of them had been commenters in favor of the vaccine program at a recent ACIP meeting (Stinchfield and Sean O’Leary). Isn’t it remarkable that an ex officio member of the ACIP had to grab a slot at the public comment time to laud the vaccines? Was CDC desperate to fill those slots in order to keep those of us with a different opinion out?

merylnass: The current speaker, a father, is great. COVID is not a childhood disease. It does not affect transmission. The benefit wanes quickly and new variants evade them. He calls out the multiple fraudulent efforts to fool us about the disease and the vaccine.

merylnass: Thayer Phillips is a spokesperson for ‘seniors speak out.’ Does CDC fund this organization? “Now is the time we must prepare ourselves to protect those most vulnerable.”

merylnass: He is boosting for the new expensive PCV vaccines for elders–which are currently available but will cost ya.

merylnass: Now we have a similar spokesperson from another older person organization. He too is a PCV booster. Maybe one was paid by Merck and the other by Pfizer. Now the National Grange is represented and it too is here to boost the new PCV vaccines. Incredible. I guess at $247 per dose the mfrs can afford to purchase lots of elders to lecture to CDC, and fill up spots that might otherwise go to discussing COVID vaccines.

merylnass: There were only 6 speakers. Now we go to the PCV vote and the VFC vote.

merylnass: Finally we get to see some faces as they vote and 2 female members of the ACIP are masked. 15 yeses zero nos for the vaccines for children vote, which as I said is only a baby step toward the childhood mandates.

merylnass: Now for the totally confusing PCV votes, because there are 3 adult PCV vaccines and another one coming soon, and they all have a different collection of serotypes…so how and when do you mix an match them, when there is very little data to inform us about the answer?

merylnass: And the answer is that it probably does not matter and most likely most of the members would not be able to explain what precisely they are voting on right now. So I predict you will get unanimous yeses on all 3 questions.

merylnass: You know what? I think that none of our CHD watchers care about the outcome. Maybe we can all simply shut down this meeting before we are all braindead. I told you no one understood these votes.

merylnass: I forgot, they have to talk about polio vaccines too, and that might be important. WHO just collected several billion dollars over the past few days to roll out a new polio program.

merylnass: They decided not to vote! CDC will have to make the questions simpler and clearer–or if CDC doesn’t want to do that, they will have to figure it out later.

merylnass: Polio vaccine: 1961-1999 used primarily live vaccine. In 2000 ACIP switched to inactivated vaccine because all polio cases were due to vaccine in the US.

merylnass: Numerous vaccine strain outbreaks are being detected.

merylnass: While only ‘wild type’ type 1 polio appears in the world, other types of polio exist due to vaccine strains 2 and 3.

merylnass: What is not being said is that it has long been known that some people shed the poliovirus after the injection for a lifetime.

merylnass: So there will be polio virus in wastewater over much of the world.

merylnass: Polio is shed in the stool.

merylnass: Interestingly, fractional injected polio vaccine at 20% the normal dose, given intradermally, is being used in some countries outside the US.

merylnass: This must be where some bright bulb got the idea to dilute the monkeypox vaccine.

merylnass: What I need to emphasize is that the NYC case does not mean much, nor does the wastewater analysis showing polio in multiple water systems. Because there has probably been vaccine strain polio in wastewater for many years, and probably many people have been exposed over the years. But only about 1 in 1000 people exposed actually develops a case of polio.

merylnass: It is probably more important to keep kids out of dirty water, and avoid contamination of drinking water, which can happen when sewer lines rupture, etc.

merylnass: Dr. Sanchez asks about earlier data on wastewater. The CDC person says we are following some guidelines that tell us only to look at water around cases. DUH. Don’t look don’t tell, right? Of course they do have this data, because we found from COVID that Europeans were able to test water from the past year for evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in the year before the pandemic started.

merylnass: They kept wastewater samples. But CDC does not want to go there and admit that polio is being shed in multiple locations.

merylnass: Dooling said they tested water in CT and NJ and the water tested was negative.

merylnass: Well, for once the CDC did not tell everyone to run out and get a polio booster! Maybe there is a shortage. BTW, the injected vaccine used in the US is not nearly as effective as the live vaccine that can revert to virulence. I guess they don’t want people to get boosted and then come down with polio, showing the vaccine did not work as well as claimed.

merylnass: Till 8:30 am tomorrow. G’nite.

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https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/what-will-happen-if-acip-does-recommend?

What Will Happen if ACIP Does Recommend the COVID-19 Vaccines for Children

This is a brief note of my speculative but informed expectation.

The states determine mandates, not the school.

A full ACIP recommendation for any pediatric vaccine carries the power of law under mandates in those states not smart enough to have or retain their philosophical exemptions.

That means that adults who will never take the boosters are going to have to enforce 2-3 COVID-19 shots per year in children and teens.

Never.

States will reinstate, or instate philosophical exemptions before that happens. This one will backfire and lead to more exemptions across the board.

That’s my prediction. I hope I’m right, but I could be wrong. What do you think?

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**Comment**

All 50 states have different vaccine exemptions – but some don’t have any.  The three include: medical, religious, and philosophical or personal belief objections.  Go here to learn of the exemptions in your state.  Thankfully, Wisconsin has all three.