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Dr. Sunetra Gupta Takes on Herd Immunity Nay-Sayers

https://unherd.com/2020/10/matt-hancock-is-wrong-about-herd-immunity/

Matt Hancock is wrong about herd immunity

Confusion about the Covid-19 science is hampering debate — and costing lives

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Yesterday in parliament, Matt Hancock explained to the house why, “on the substance”, the central claim of the Great Barrington Declaration was “emphatically not true”.

“Many diseases never reach herd immunity – including measles, malaria, AIDS and flu…” he said. “Herd immunity is a flawed goal – even if we could get to it, which we can’t.”  (See link for article)

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**Comment**

Dr. Sunetra Gupta succinctly takes Hancock and other herd immunity nay-sayers to task.  She and two other epidemiologists have come up with The Great Barrington Declaration: HTTPS://GBDECLARATION.ORG

  • She points out that natural infection with measles provides life-long immunity and keeps risk of infection low.
  • Regarding malaria, we obtain some immunity when first infected so as to not suffer severe disease and death when further attacked, which she points out is probably also common with COVID-19.
  • Regarding AIDS she states rates of infection will slow as the virus runs out of hosts.
  • While the flu finds ways around herd immunity, it is unlikely for coronaviruses – including COVID-19.  If it can, it poses a serious problem for vaccine development.  
  • There is enough of the population with some level of immunity to coronaviruses to keep risk of infection low, and that being infected with one coronavirus will probably offer some protection against others.
  • There is no way to know how many have been exposed or resistant to COVID-19 but that attainment of the herd immunity threshold does not lead to disease eradication. It merely means we have reached an equilibrium state in which infections linger at low levels in the community. This is the situation we tolerate for most infectious diseases.
  • The Great Barrington Declaration proposes a solution in this face of uncertainty. It suggests that we exploit the fact COVID-19 does not cause much harm to most, and allows them to resume normal lives, while shielding those who are vulnerable.  Immunity will then build so there is a low enough risk of infection to the vulnerable population that they may resume their normal lives. All of this can happen over a period of six months.  Focused protection does not involve the permanent segregation of the vulnerable from the rest of the population.
  • Directing hospital and care homes is one obvious priority.
  • Gupta points out the GBD has been attacked by the media, including Wikipedia & Google (no shocker) but that serious scientists from top institutions suggests it has merit, but that good faith disagreements must be aired and discussed.

For more:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/10/06/covid-experts-there-is-another-way-please-sign-the-declaration/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/10/14/the-great-barrington-declaration-herd-immunity-strategies-for-coronavirus-overlook-8-problems/

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Disulfiram for Lyme Update

https://www.treatlyme.net/guide/antabuse-disulfiram-chronic-lyme-disease-treatment  Go here for video

Updated: 10/9/2020

Marty Ross MD Discusses Disulfiram for Lyme Disease

About Disulfiram for Lyme

For many with chronic Lyme disease, disulfiram is a game changer. This is a medicine historically used to treat people with alcoholism. Ground-breaking research from Dr. Rajadas’ Stanford University lab in 2016 showed disulfiram can kill persister forms of Lyme disease… (See link for article and video)

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For more:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/10/01/study-shows-dsm-works-for-lyme-reduces-inflammatory-markers-antibody-titers/

https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2019/11/19/if-disulfiram-is-the-cure-for-lyme-disease-should-it-be-prescribed-to-all-lyme-disease-patients/

https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2019/07/14/disulfiram-breakthrough-drug-for-lyme-other-tick-borne-diseases/

https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/26/potential-patient-reported-toxicities-with-disulfiram-treatment-in-late-disseminated-lyme-disease/

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FOI Asking UK Officials For Proof of Isolation of SARS-CoV 2 Virus. They Can’t Give it

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/679566/response/1625332/attach/2/872%20FOI%20All%20records%20describing%20isolation%20of%20SARS%20COV%202.pdf?

page1image624Public Accountability Unit Wellington House 133-155 Waterloo Road London SE1 8UG

 

T 020 8327 6920 http://www.gov.uk/phe

20 August 2020

request-679566-e6380751@whatdotheyknow.com

Our ref: 24/07/hf/872

Dear Andrew Johnson,

Re: Documents held showing SARS-COV2 has been isolated and Causes COVID-19

Thank you for your email dated 24 July 2020. In accordance with Section 1(1)(a) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act), I can confirm that Public Health England (PHE) does not hold the information you have specified.

Your Request

All records in the possession, custody or control of Public Health England describing the isolation of a SARS-COV-2 virus, directly from a sample taken from a diseased patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material (i.e. monkey kidney cells aka vero cells; liver cancer cells).

Please note that I am using “isolation” in the every-day sense of the word: the act of separating a thing(s) from everything else. I am not requesting records where “isolation of SARS-COV-2” refers *instead* to:

• the culturing of something, or
• the performance of an amplification test (i.e. a PCR test), or • the sequencing of something.

Please also note that my request is not limited to records that were authored by the PHE or that pertain to work done by the PHE. My request includes any sort of record, for example (but not limited to) any published peer-reviewed study that the PHE has downloaded or printed.

Please provide enough information about each record so that I may identify and access each record with certainty (i.e. title, author(s), date, journal, wherethe public may access it).”

Response

PHE can confirm it does not hold information in the way suggested by your request.

Under section 16 of the Act, public authorities have a duty to provide advice and assistance. I have signposted you to the below links which contain information on taking COVID-19 swabs.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-for-taking-swab- samples https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/types-and-uses-of-coronavirus-covid- 19-tests/types-and-uses-of-coronavirus-covid-19-tests

Additionally, the below publication contains some information on virus isolation:

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560- 7917.ES.2020.25.32.2001483

If you have any queries regarding the information that has been supplied to you, please refer your query to in writing in the first instance. If you remain dissatisfied and would like to request an internal review, then please contact us at the address

above or by emailing foi@phe.gov.uk.

Please note that you have the right to an independent review by the InformationCommissioner’s Office if a complaint cannot be resolved through the PHE complaints procedure. The Information Commissioner’s Office can be contacted by writing to Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,Cheshire, SK9 5AF.

Yours sincerely, FOI Team

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For more:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/03/16/does-the-coronavirus-exist/

This house of cards has been pointed out by Crowe, Torsten, and Engelbrecht decades ago: https://www.torstenengelbrecht.com/en/virus-mania/

From my lay-man’s understanding, somewhere along the line, viral research took a left turn and no longer singularly isolates and purifies virus from all else. According to Crowe, what’s being picked up are bits and pieces they are labeling “virus,” which may not be infective or causative of disease at all. Yet based upon this house of cards, governors and politicians are forcing people to wear masks (which don’t work), social distance, and fear a phantom that has yet to be clearly identified.

It’s imperative virologists address this foundational issue because until they do, “virus mania” isn’t going away and will be used repeatedly in the future just as it has been used in the past.

I highly, highly recommend Torsten/Engelbrecht’s book as it reveals how this foundational issue goes back to HIV, Ebola, Swine Flu, and others. 

Important to note: without this isolation/purification from all else, accurate tests and/or vaccines will never occur.  Products are only as sensitive/effective as the material from which they are derived from. This article reveals how arbitrary thresholds are used in testing (to either inflate or deflate case numbers):  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/09/30/coronavirus-cases-plummet-when-pcr-tests-are-adjusted/  In the case of COVID, these arbitrary thresholds inflate case numbers, as shown by this article that the test can’t distinguish between virus and viral fragments:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/08/14/tests-for-sars-cov-2-in-south-korea-cant-distinguish-virus-from-viral-fragments/

This issue has long been a thorn in the sides of Lyme/MSIDS patients:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/03/01/study-cdcs-2-tier-lyme-testing-inaccurate-in-more-than-70-of-cases/  In the case of Lyme/MSIDS, arbitrary thresholds have notoriously deflated case numbers.  The CDC has finally recognized this severe underreporting of cases; however, little has been done about it and the abysmal reliance on faulty testing continues on unabated. Due to CDC direction, doctors and authorities malign smaller CLIA-certified labs that specialize in virology and bacteriology for Lyme/MSIDS testing, and actually call them “home brewed.”  Please see:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/04/26/cdc-playbook-learning-from-lyme/

Another important read about the creator of the PCR:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/  Excerpt:

One time, in 1994, when I called to talk to him about how PCR was being weaponized to “prove,” almost a decade after it was asserted, that HIV caused AIDS, he actually came to tears.

Kary Mullis was a scientist. He never spoke like a globalist, and said once, memorably, when accused of making statements about HIV that could endanger lives: “I’m a scientist. I’m not a lifeguard.” That’s a very important line in the sand. Somebody who goes around claiming they are “saving lives,” is a very dangerous animal, and you should run in the opposite direction when you encounter them. Their weapon is fear, and their favorite word is “could.” They entrap you with a form of bio-debt, creating simulations of every imaginable thing that “could” happen, yet hasn’t. Bill Gates has been waiting a long time for a virus with this much, as he put it, “pandemic potential.” But Gates has a problem, and it’s called PCR.

 

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Updates on Hemorrhagic Disease in Deer

https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/sports/recreational/2020/09/19/updates-made-dec-hemorrhagic-disease-deer/

Updates made to the DEC on hemorrhagic disease to deer

Bill Conners
Outdoors

It was just last week that I raised an alarm about Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (EHD) in our whitetail deer. At that time, it was “the other guy’s” problem because it had only been reported in counties to the south and west of us here in Dutchess. The situation has since changed.

This weekend I took a call from a hunter who informed me he was watching a deer that was drooling or foaming at the mouth and seemed very unconcerned about its surroundings. At that moment, it was standing in the middle on the road in front of his truck.  (See link for article)

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**Comment**

Reports of positive deer in VA, WV, and OH with suspect cases reported in NJ. PA Department of Agriculture has confirmed EHD in a deer from a captive facility in Crawford County in the NW region.

EHD was first confirmed in 2007.  Outbreaks occur when biting flies or midges are prolific in late summer and early fall. Midges prefer mud for a breeding habitat, and deer outbreaks occur when they congregate in these wet, muddy areas during the dry season.  Thankfully a hard frost kills the flies, killing the virus with it.

Symptoms in deer:

  • fever
  • hemorrhage in muscle or organs
  • swelling of the head, neck, tongue and lips
  • lameness
  • dehydration

There are no treatments or prevention methods, but the dead deer do not serve as a source of infection for other animals.  The article states while the illness is rare in the North, outbreaks occur.

The author states:

Although there is no evidence that humans can contract the disease through midge bites or by consuming venison that has been infected with EHD, my personal advice is to pass up any opportunity to harvest and consume any animals showing signs of sickness.

He also recommends contacting your state department if you encounter sick or dead deer, particularly if there is more than one deer in an area or if carcasses are found near water. 

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EHD with Tom Cooley and the DNR Wildlife Disease Lab at MSU.

Autopsy results shows fluid accumulation found under the skin, around the muscles, and deposits of blood in the chest cavity, stomach, intestines, and hemorrhaging.  

While he states humans can eat this infected meat, I would err on the side of caution.  

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More CDC ‘Senior Moments’

More CDC ‘Senior Moments’

According to the WaPo, new CDC guidelines on how COVID-19 is spread was quietly changed on its website overnight.  Currently, all mention of airborne spread has been deleted:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/21/cdc-covid-aerosols-airborne-guidelines/

In a short disclaimer on its website Monday, the CDC said the changes had been “posted in error.” 

According to Dr. Mercola’s website:  https://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2020/09/22/cdc-says-it-erred-in-posting-new-information-on-how-sarscov2-is-spread.

Friday, the changes noted that the virus is airborne and that particles in the air could spread it. Monday, that information was gone — and had even been erased from the internet archive Wayback — and the site reflected the same information that had been before, that it is spread mainly between people in close contact when they cough, sneeze or talk. 

CNN noticed the new changes in the guidelines Sunday, and was first to report on it, according to The Washington Post. The CDC “updated guidance on its website to say coronavirus can commonly spread ‘through respiratory droplets or small particles, such as those in aerosols. Airborne viruses, including COVID-19, are among the most contagious and easily spread,’” CNN said. 

When the changes and change-back caused a flurry of news reports and speculations of how a draft report came to be posted and why it was taken down, Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii, tweeted that publishing what he called “scientifically valid information” and then pulling it down was “very likely a scandal.”

However, The New York Times said that “experts with knowledge of the incident said … the latest reversal appeared to be a genuine mistake in the agency’s scientific review process, rather than the result of political meddling … Still, the reversal prompted rebukes from even the CDC’s staunchest supporters. It’s not something that instills a lot of confidence, right? said Dr. Carlos del Rio, an infectious disease expert at Emory University. ‘It doesn’t help at all.’”

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Meanwhile, WHO holds its ground:  https://news.yahoo.com/says-no-change-covid-19-163659311.html

Excerpt:  

The WHO’s Ryan said the agency still believes the disease is primarily spread through droplets, but that in crowded closed spaces with inadequate ventilation, aerosol transmission can occur.

CDC Waffles Again. Now, ‘You Need a Test’

Asymptomatic people (without symptoms) who have been exposed to COVID-19 for at least 15 minute should be tested, the CDC said on Friday, in a reversal of its policy introduced in late August:  http://web.archive.org/web/20200917093652/https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/testing-overview.html

Please know that COVID testing is abysmal: https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/08/09/gov-mike-dewine-of-ohio-tests-positive-then-negative-for-coronavirus/

A positive might just mean you have a cold:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/07/01/us-scientist-manufactured-pandemic-testing-people-for-any-strain-of-coronavirus-not-specifically-covid-19/

Antibody testing, similarly to Lyme antibody testing is wrong up to half or more of the time:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/29/antibody-tests-for-covid-19-wrong-up-to-half-the-time-cdc-says/

https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/18/coronavirus-covid-19-antibody-tests-do-you-really-want-one-think-hard-about-it-maybe-not/

And the PCR is horrific:  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/13/president-of-tanzania-punks-who-sending-samples-of-fruit-goats-sheep-even-motor-oil-for-covid-testing-nearly-half-come-back-positive/

https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

Excerpt:

I’m skeptical that a PRC test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine.Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer, and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics  https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

Rasnick’s advice for people who want to be tested for COVID-19.

“DON’T DO IT, I SAY, WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME,” HE REPLIES. “NO HEALTHY PERSON SHOULD BE TESTED. IT MEANS NOTHING BUT IT CAN DESTROY YOUR LIFE, MAKE YOU ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE.”
Stay tuned for the next episode of the CDC comedy of errors & reversals.

 

 

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