Toni Bark, M.D., interviews James Chestnut, D.C. B.Ed., M.SC., C.C. W.P.,
1:44 Chestnut’s first interest in vaccinations started with the H1N1 “scare,” which struck him as illogical and overblown.
3:00 He has a hard time wrapping his mind around the fact that a worldwide policy has been made without clear scientific data. It’s impossible to have a control group when everyone has been vaccinated, but the flu strain changes every year, making it possible to do those studies.
4:15 For some reason questioning data on the flu vaccine is accepted in the research world, while the others are not.
6:00 The flu isn’t deadly. It’s not dangerous. The peer reviewed literature demonstrates this.
7:45 Doctors have little to no research training and are not equipped to make health care policy decisions. When doctors get involved they get attacked. Where does the policy come from? The government. Where does the government get their data? Pharmacutical companies.
9:15 The government has recommended the flu vaccine for everyone. Health care workers are required to get it now. This is fairly recent.
12:00 Chestnut feels that if doctors would really look at the flu vaccine data, they would begin to wake up. The deeper he looked, he calls it “Flu-gate.”
14:45 From the time that 15% of people got the vaccine to when 85% of people got it, the flu rate actually went up. He shows that the data are misleading and actually criminally so because they do not take into account frailty bias or those that are elderly and close to dying. These elderly don’t respond well to the vaccine. The flu comes around in winter due to a lack of vitamin D (sunlight). He feels supplementing with vitamin D a far better treatment.
19:50 The Canadian Nurses Union, the National Nurses Union in the U.S., SAE, OSHA, are all against mandated flu vaccines for health care workers.
21:50 The path of policy making is: Pharmaceutical companies create data they give to politicians who implement health care policy and vaccine schedules and then it comes down to medical practitioners. The doctors need to do their work and study and understand the data itself. We need independent researchers. The Cochrane Data Base is for this. This base has already shown there is NO EVIDENCE for vaccination showing what the CDC claims. Chestnut claims the data is all there but people are not looking at the Cocharn Data Base.
25:00 Chestnut feels we can study the flu vaccine to study the entire vaccine process. If the flu vaccine research has been proven false, then all vaccines can be questioned. He is asking doctors to look at the data and demand proper research studies be done on the flu vaccine.
27:05 He claims there are studies but that they have been interpreted falsely. He states that as long as doctors claim they know the facts on vaccines, things will not change.
29:09 Nobody wants to be the next Wakefield (labeled a fraud) for questioning vaccine practice but researchers have more latitude arguing data on the flu vaccine.
30:50 There are numerous viruses, few are the flu; however, they count all those other viruses to prove the flu vaccine. Many of those folks never had the flu to begin with. There’s no controlled data. He says it’s similar to stating that if 100 people go on a diet, 1 will lose 5 pounds, therefore the diet should be mandatory.
33:50 Nurses without the flu vaccine are required to wear a mask at work. Chestnut states what really upsets him is that nurses who get the flu vaccine believe they are protecting patients without a mask on, but they are not.
33:35 Next Bark interviews Kelly Brogan, M.D., Psychiatrist speaks. Her work led her to deal with pregnant women and helping them with informed consent regarding safety of medications while pregnant and after. In her journey she discovered that there are many toxicities and areas that need to be studied from food, water, air, to things like vaccines.
38:50 She says there is an alarming signal of harm around the flu vaccine in the literature. She turned to the Cochrane Data Base for objectivity. They have demonstrated a lack of efficacy. In a setting of lack of efficacy, the precautionary principle should prevail.
42:27 She claims people are trusting the authorities and are not connecting the dots, and that they believe they were fine until one day they became sick rather than seeing the lead up and connection to what they’ve done throughout time.
46:00 She states that medical doctors are not taught to prevent illness and look at individual risk factors. It seems easier to universally recommend things to everyone – like vaccines. If medicine makes universal recommendations and refuse to look at individuality, there is going to be collateral damage. (Think canary in the coal mine)
52:45 She has alternative medicine tools that many M.D.’s don’t. Regular M.D.’s feel threatened and defensive if questioned about what they learned in Med school.
55:20 When she started tapering pregnant women from pharmaceuticals it got ugly. Most drugs cause symptoms and cause adaptation – when she took the medication away they looked like they were relapsing. The symptoms they got after tapering were new. They might have gone on an anti-depressant years ago due to a breakup and when they tapered off they developed anxiety. She began to question all of it and she would sit down with patients and truly inform them of potential effects – long-term effects. She claims much of this data on drugs is corrupted, and that the book Anatomy of an Epidemic distressed her because one of the 16 studies on depression regarding long-term outcomes revealed that patients fare better if you don’t medicate them in their index episode.
105:30:00 People that even question dogma are attacked.
Next, Say Ji, Health Advocate and Founder of GreenMedInfo is interviewed. They start on Germ Theory.